The Second Apocalypse

For the record, I still haven't read TWLW (I know, I know) but I'm not overly concerned about spoilers in this case.

I'm curious what everybody's opinion on this question is though. From what little we know of the Outside and the Gods therein, it seems to me that they're more like a "part of the whole" that is Bakker's universe. Despite being very powerful, it seems odd to me that they'd be capable of actually creating worlds and the lifeforms to inhabit them, or even that they'd really be interested in doing so (at least based upon their apparent "personalities", if such a word applies). I'm assuming we haven't actually been clued in to this at all? Or have we? If not, will we ever?

I know people have mentioned the idea that Eärwa is in-fact the "center" of the Bakkerverse, which I suppose would kind of explain why all this cosmic shit is going down there instead of some other planet. Are there hints of any beings "greater" than the Gods from the Outside? Is Fate another God, or just a manifestation of the universe itself?

I'm not 100% certain but I believe that another unmentioned race visited the planet and oozed black goo that created intelligent life. Bakker has been keeping the title a secret because it might concern Earwa 5 thousand years in the future where they send a team of Nonmen, Men, and Sranc to investigate a planet that holds the key to our origins.

For my money, I'll go with evolution. The gods seem to have evolved alongside men, whatever they were when the non-men held sway.
I think Earwa is a planetary topos, it's important cuz it's where two universes bleed into each other causally.
Mebe its the non-men and men who are the real aliens.

Yes, yes, from the black ooze flows all things. All things must flow.

There will no doubt be some form of occlusion going on. Perhaps Earwa was created in an act of occlusion - something created because of actions unseen by the god things. That's why the gods are so judgemental of mankind. Also maybe why men have souls - they were given them by accident, something occuring in the blindspot of the gods.

It's hard for me to accept that the Outside of Earwa extends beyond the planet. The Inchoroi boast of crossing an interstellar void, light-year upon light-year, and the Outside is supposed to be present there also?

I dunno. Depends if the inchies travelled because of damnation or just for laughs at first.

It is interesting that Bakker's mythology doesn't have a creation story. Every ancient gods/myth cycle I can think of does. And a flood. No floods.

They first encountered sorcery in Earwa, we know that for sure.
So we can assume other worlds have no sorcery? .
So yeah, I’d go with Earwa being a topos of some kind.

Wait until Unholy Consult or the unnamed trilogy.

The final line of the series as Kellhus drops to his knees upon a beach: "You maniacs! You blew it up!" Cue a description of the Statue of Liberty.

I don't think so as well. I think it's outside of all that space as well. And yet it has ties to/is close to Earwa.