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 Post subject: The Gods, the God of Gods, and the Solitary God
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:56 am 
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So the Gods are compared to larger Ciphrang, powerful agencies that exist within the Outside who feast on souls.

So what exactly is the God of Gods and the Solitary God, and how are they related?

I think the God of Gods, as has been mentioned in the books, is the sum of the Gods and the consciousnesses of en-souled beings. After all, Inri Sejenus refers to the God of Gods as the "Thousand-Souled" or something to that effect. However, I also think that the Solitary God and the God of Gods are the same entity. The SG is described as transcendent, so my theory is that while the God of Gods is the sum total of all consciousnesses, that sum has also developed its own consciousness separate from the parts, which is the Solitary God. The Solitary God is the "person" of the God of Gods, the conscious agency of the God of Gods. I'm wondering if this works with the Gods being considered parts of the whole in the Inrithi tradition and the Gods being considered "demons" in the Fanim?


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 Post subject: Re: The Gods, the God of Gods, and the Solitary God
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:36 am 
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It's possible they are the same, or that they represent Demiurge and Monad as in real-world Gnostic thought.

In the real world, different schools interpreted the Demiurge as either benevolent or malevolent.

It's also possible nothing is at seems and the Inchoroi's game goes much deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppperrr

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Lol, yeah. We need to go deeper :D.

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 Post subject: Re: The Gods, the God of Gods, and the Solitary God
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I don't know what the difference, if any, between the God of Gods and the Solitary God is but I know one is described as immanent and the other as transcendent. There were many good reasons for Kellhus to take the Inrithi side in the Holy War: the path laid out by his father, the fact that the Psukhe works on emotions, simple geography. But could there be a further reason in that Fanimry is, compared to Inrithism, not a very good tool for someone who would change society by speaking for the God? Do we know of any divine intervention in Fanimry other than the Cishaurim and their Holy Water?

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TTT Glossary wrote:
History (Inrithism) - The movement of human events through time. The significance of History for the Inrithi is that the God is manifested within it. The Inrithi believe that certain configurations of events express the truth of the God while certain other configurations are inimical to such expressions.

This is contrasted with the Dunyain's mechanistic view of history but still it mentions Inrithism specifically and not Fanimry or the Kinnuat.

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TTT Glossary wrote:
Solitary God - "Allonara Yulah" (Kianni) The names used by Fanim to denote the transcendent singularity of their supreme deity. According to Fanim tradition, the God is not, as the Inrithi claim, immanent in existence, nor is He manifold in the way described by the Latter Prophet.


Edit3:
Another relevant entry. I never noticed this one before today.
TTT Glossary wrote:
Kahiht - The name given to so called World-Souls in the Inrithi tradition. Since the God manifests himself in the movement of historical events in Inrithism, to be Kahiht, or a world historical individual, is considered sacred.

Sounds like anyone we know?


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